Deuces Dry with Emily Meade (TCGS S5 E1)

Arnold  0:02  
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Emily  3:35  
Well, I obviously drank a lot of cocktail. That's why I'm right sober.

Jonathan  3:40  
You drank and then decided to, and

Jeffrey  3:41  
now maybe you're drinking mocktails.

Emily  3:44  
Yeah, not that frequently. No, okay, because I I'm really sensitive to sweet. So even when I was drinking alcohol, the only cocktails I really liked were like, I love, like, a fresh, lemony, minty, really light thing. But often, when you're out of the mocktails are like something really fruity. They're usually sort of make up for it's true lack of

Jonathan  4:06  
alcohol, but they have come a long way. You know? I mean, if you go into cocktail bars, usually you'll see an entire section devoted to non alcoholic drinks, zero proof, yes, as they might call it, yeah, and you've got better I think they're using better ingredients these days, whereas in the past, it was just a bunch of crappy juices, yeah, thrown into the mix, or just soda water or something, right? Yeah? But I think

Jeffrey  4:28  
with such a bad taste that it needed sugar to cover,

Emily  4:31  
yeah, just a lot of sugar. Not anymore, but yeah, no, I'd love, I've had a few that I I was

Jeffrey  4:36  
impressed by. So do you like more martinis?

Emily  4:39  
There's not, I don't know if there's that many mocktail martinis, probably not. Well, there is, I know there's non alcohol.

Jonathan  4:45  
There is non alcohol. There's a non alcoholic version of all spirits, everything. Are they good? Like, sometimes it just tastes like infused water, yes,

Emily  4:53  
like cheese water, or it's a little sometimes it's like a surreal experience to drink. I've only done it a few times, like a non alcoholic. Alcohol. I was saying it kind of just like when you're a kid and you start, like, peeing in your dream, and you're like, Am I dreaming? Am I not so I'm like, it's a similar feeling of, like, am I drinking alcohol? My analogy, it really is what it feels like. It feels like, Wait, what is what is happening? Am I drunk? Yeah. Like, a paradox, yeah, sure, yeah.

Jonathan  5:20  
A seeming contradiction with some truth to

Emily  5:22  
it, yeah, just not sure, sure what is real and what is not, your candidate for Jeopardy,

Jonathan  5:28  
yeah? Maybe sure that sounds okay,

Jeffrey  5:32  
but I'm impressed already with Emily's knowledge, because she said gin, yeah, when I said martini, oh, yeah,

Jonathan  5:38  
like I said I did it. So what was I mean? Was there, was there a point where you were like, I need to stop, yeah, is that how, kind of, how it came

Emily  5:46  
though? Yeah, it was kind of a matter of always, like, not if, but when. Like, I always, I, because I drank from a really young age, and I knew it was, it was also it runs my from my Irish Catholic family, so we like alcohol. I was aware of the fact that alcohol can be a problem from the time I was really young age, and I kind of put it off as long as I could. And then I was like this. I had done kind of all the work you guys was doing therapy and like every sort of healer possible, but there were still problems that just weren't stopping. And I was like, let me try this path, and it, it helped a lot,

Jonathan  6:25  
mind and body. Yes, because I know that you talk a lot about, you know, mental health and mental health awareness too. Yeah. I mean, I think that's important for mental clarity, right?

Emily  6:35  
Clarity. And also, I, you know, I've been in actual recovery programs where, like, it's an entire system of, like Tools for Life, in a way that I feel like, the not drinking alcohol is almost like the easiest part of that journey, because it's like what you use alcohol for. Sometimes, some people are able to just use it as a delicious treat, right? Some people use it to cope with things that I've found other tools to cope with,

Jonathan  6:57  
which is very helpful. What are some of those other tools? Oh, God,

Emily  7:02  
I Well, you know, I've worked the 12 Steps, which I don't, you know how familiar you are with them. They're kind of, you know, they're used, like, pieces of them are kind of used in all sorts of programs. So it's a whole journey of, like, kind of taking inventory of your whole life, and you sort of find common themes of problems. You run into that like you aren't really resolving for yourself. So you do a lot of work there, and then a lot of the belief system is like just being of service to other and like surrendering to something else and not being, not trying to control things and be in your will, as you say, and that's I've always been, like, a very Woo, woo, you know, loving the idea of, like, there being something else. So for me, like a lot of people, struggle with that part of recovery because they don't believe in God or whatever. And for me, the spiritual aspect was, like, actually the most fun to be like, Oh, I can just like, let something else guide me. Cool. I love that you're supposed to meditate. I do meditate. I try. You try. I'm recently trying more

Jonathan  8:06  
same, yeah, trying. My wife is is good at meditating and like, taking a few minutes in the car even to just like, sit, yeah, do that, yeah.

Jeffrey  8:14  
Well, unfortunately, I'm too stressed out to meditate.

Emily  8:19  
That is in the car. No, she's not yet. That's a little frightening.

Jonathan  8:23  
I sometimes joke while we're driving, like, I'll be driving. I'm like, kids. We have two kids. Yeah, I'm just gonna close my eyes for a bit and meditate. They're like, No,

Emily  8:33  
it's a dad joke, it is, but it's a very modern day That's right.

Jonathan  8:38  
Use that joke. You used it? Oh, you passed it. Oh, really, did you steal it from me? No, I did that. Did I steal it from you? Probably,

Emily  8:48  
yeah, that makes more sense, I guess. So.

Jonathan  8:52  
What about what about acting? You know, did you know because you're New York City, born and raised, yeah, what were you into when you were younger? Were you always into theater, that kind of thing?

Emily  9:03  
Yeah, movies, more specifically, we didn't go to much theater when I was a kid, even though I lived in New York. That wasn't really my family's thing. I did. I did well, I was just saying earlier that I did get to go backstage at Beauty and the Beast because my dad massaged someone who worked on it. So that was a big deal. Your dad massaged my dad's massage therapist, and he too. I got Beauty and the Beast backstage, and I got cats. We got to be like, in the box seat or not block. What the nice seats? Yeah, the balcony, but like, this private one, and like, a cat crawled on it. So that's, yeah, yeah. They're box seats right for theater, but they're open. They're not like in a box,

Jeffrey  9:44  
but overhanging the stage cool.

Emily  9:47  
So that was my big theater experiences. But yeah, I grew up. My dad was a big movie buff, and sort of showed me movies that not all my peers were watching from a young age, not x rayed, but like.

Jonathan  10:00  
Know, Like, what are like, artsy, more artsy, or

Emily  10:04  
can hold lates, which was one of those, you know, like things. Well, all my friends wouldn't even watch black and white. I remember that being a thing of like kids coming over and began, and I want to show them little rascals even. And I Love Lucy. Was like shows I grew up. Yes, I had all the VHS is of little rascals. And I love I was Lucille Ball. Was like, who I want? Yeah, that's who I wanted to be. I really loved comedy specifically. But yeah, I remember him showing me the Purple Rose of Kerry. That was a big one. I remember the movies I saw as a kid that were really impactful. Was Rosemary's Baby, which my dad did not show me. He was very upset that I saw that.

Jonathan  10:43  
Yeah, six years old, yeah,

Emily  10:45  
maybe it was eight, maybe it was eight, but either

Jonathan  10:47  
way, the time between six and eight is nothing. So, yeah, yeah,

Emily  10:51  
you know, it's a little closer, a little a little closer.

Emily  10:55  
That's a heavy movie. Yeah, you know, it's all relative. I see the thread, and then Kramer versus Kramer was a big one for me. Yeah, I was, I was that's like, kind of all over the place a little bit, yeah, but those are the things I saw as a kid that. And then, like, spinal tap. Wait, Christopher Guest was, like, a huge, huge thing for me. Yeah, that an SNL. I was a big SNL kid in the 90s, which people only recently, are not recently, but I learned that that was not considered a good time on SNL, but 90s, like Adam Sandler, Chris Farley, time, Yeah, isn't that? People say it wasn't good? Yeah, I don't well.

Jeffrey  11:33  
I had been watching from the very beginning from Yeah, for sure, it not good. I thought it was very good. I mean, those were the some of the best years all well, I don't want to name names, but maybe I should, well, it's someone who's departed from this earth. No, but I love, oh, Chris Farley is amazing. No, Belushi, yeah, I did not, I did not love John. He was very specific. I did not think he was very funny. And as a matter of fact, growing up, when I watched comedy shows, I didn't think anybody was funny interesting. I mean, the old comedy shows, yeah, well, I Love Lucy. I didn't think I

Jonathan  12:11  
love did you think was

Emily  12:14  
nobody? Nobody. Did you ever laugh? Say, into

Jonathan  12:18  
my personal you're a little bit of you're a humorous guy. You know, it's not you must have had like, who

Jeffrey  12:25  
humor, for example, I was, grew up watching Milton Berle comedians like that. Yeah, he found that funny. Didn't like Bob, Bob, hope, didn't think either not, think either one of them. So why the Three Stooges? Because I had to, what? Because I watched TV a lot, and I watched The Ed Sullivan Show. I watched various interview shows where they were appearing, yeah, so that's why I had contact with them. I did not. I was a TV watcher, so I would watch anything,

Jeffrey  12:54  
quite honestly, but you didn't find

Jeffrey  12:56  
anyone. No, no, I don't

Jonathan  13:00  
think that that's true.

Jeffrey  13:04  
I'm now thinking,

Jeffrey  13:07  
Oh, Chris, definitely SNL, Adam Sandler. I think really like Adam Sandler, but before, I'm trying to go back before SNL, and it's hard, I'm hard pressed me find comedians that I thought were really funny. Well, when I was a kid,

Emily  13:23  
you know, I thought very high standards for comedy as well. I mean, I

Jonathan  13:27  
remember watching, you know, we would watch Seinfeld in at home, and, you know, that kind of thing that was, I'm trying

Jeffrey  13:33  
to go even before back farther, because I thought Seinfeld was very

Jonathan  13:37  
Didn't you guys used to watch old time, like comedy TV shows, like Three's Company and right I remember watching which, by the way, really like threes. I loved it as a kid, and I started showing it to my kids. It is super inappropriate. Every single episode is super inappropriate. But we like, kind of like, grossly.

Jeffrey  13:58  
We took you and your sister to see a live taping.

Jonathan  14:03  
Yes, I do remember that. No,

Jeffrey  14:07  
that show, but the show, step by step.

Emily  14:10  
But yes, yeah, oh,

Jonathan  14:14  
TGIF, absolutely. Yeah. Who's the star? The star that was on Patrick Duffy. Patrick was on Dallas. And yes, Patrick Duffy and Suzanne, summers and Suzanne, right? That's why my mind was blown in one of those scenes when, well, first of all, going to see a live taping as a studio I still have never, I really love to, yeah, what are there only, like, three or four shows there now that only do live studio audience, yeah? Why

Emily  14:37  
would they, if everything's remote, anyway, she

Jonathan  14:39  
doesn't know. That's wrong. Okay, I don't know. She doesn't know, yeah, but less and less, you know, because they don't do multi cams, yeah? Is that the lingo? Yeah, they don't do multi cams much these these days, right? They're

Emily  14:50  
single confused by that. Those are, like, when I audition for things, it'll say multi cam and then, but then sometimes it'll be like, a. Because obviously, like, the office, whatever, that mockumentary thing is, like, that's multi,

Jonathan  15:05  
yeah, so that that's studio, non studio audience,

Emily  15:08  
so, yeah, I don't multicam is just multi, multiple cameras shooting at the same time, which is a lot of things now, right? Yeah,

Jeffrey  15:14  
but you just mentioned one of my favorite shows among the office, yeah. Now that's to me. See, it's a different it's a Oh, and also, oh, gosh, what? I can't read your mind. Yeah, no, no. The sarcastic, yeah, kind of sadistic comedy

Jonathan  15:36  
Parks and Rec we

Jeffrey  15:40  
started funny. That's not the one, the one with

Jeffrey  15:45  
crater of Seinfeld.

Emily  15:47  
Oh yes, that Kerry enthusiast, that is also

Jeffrey  15:50  
yes, but also adolescent. What growing up adolescence?

Emily  15:54  
Adolescence, there isn't there is a show,

Emily  16:00  
comedy. Comedy. Boy needs world.

Jeffrey  16:06  
It's a hilarious show. It was

Jonathan  16:09  
young Sheldon, no, my kids love young. Another comedy, okay, well,

Jeffrey  16:16  
I'll try to figure out what, yes, but

Emily  16:19  
not growing pains. No,

Jeffrey  16:24  
really funny, sarcastic,

Emily  16:27  
but about adolescence. Sorry,

Jeffrey  16:30  
adolescent, but it's growing up, growing

Jonathan  16:37  
but moving back to you, Emily, what, when did you catch the bug? Like, when were you like? I think I want to try this out, right?

Emily  16:47  
I don't remember a time where I didn't, which is something I say now I'm like, I kind of wish I had let myself explore more things and, like, pick up more skills along the way of life, because, you know, acting career is quite a journey. And yes, you know, it'd be nice to, like, have other elements, but I don't, I know there's like, when my sister was born, I was six, going on seven, and on that video, I'm like, I love to act like a little

Jonathan  17:15  
have you done things? No, no. You profess you deemed yourself. Yeah, I just

Emily  17:21  
kind of knew. And I mean, I would do, like, performances for family members, but I was so shy that I would need to have my back to them so or, like, do it from the other room, which you would think meant that I couldn't do it. But I still knew. I don't know. Yeah, you don't do that when you audition. No, I wish I could. No, I actually don't. I wish the opposite. I wish I was still in the room. Everything's self tape, and that's a nightmare,

Jonathan  17:45  
right? That's kind of wild, yeah, when I was starting to act when I first moved to New York, it was none of that.

Emily  17:51  
There was no same, yeah, and that's Same for me, I thought, Yeah, I actually, I didn't know yet, I guess. But I'm actually more comfortable in front of an audience, like when, you know, when you know when you go on set for something, often you do a rehearsal privately, and I get more self conscious there than I do when there's a lot of people. It's almost like disassociated. It's like, less personal.

Jonathan  18:10  
Now, when you when you walk into an audition, do you I've been listening to, like, I love Amy poehler's podcast. I don't know if you listen to hers. It's really good. But you know, there are some actors who walk in just as themselves so that they can get a feel for your own personality, and then you do the sides. Or there are some people who just kind of like walk right in with the intention and then, like, they're ready to go,

Emily  18:35  
Yeah, I'm myself. But that's also bit me in the ass before, because I remember once, I was 19, and I auditioned for the movie nobody, I don't think, really saw, and it was before the deuce where. So I'm glad I didn't add another prostitute to my resume. But it or no, it was a porn star. I'm glad I didn't add another porn star, but it was the character. Was 23 and I made a self tape, and I was 19, and they really liked it, and they flew me out to LA to meet with them, and they said they're like, just a meeting. Be yourself. Totally Be yourself. And then and the actor opposite me was like, probably in his late 30s at the time, and so I met with the director and everybody, and after they freaked out, and they were like, she seems like a teenage girl. And when I'm like, Well, yeah, I am. I am a teenage girl, and you're being yourself, yeah. So then they had me chemistry read with the actor, and there was a lot like the casting director wanted me to have it so bad that she, like, made me get my hair done to look older, and she basically made me so self conscious that I was acting off of this celebrity older man, and I got, I became a insecure little girl, and I did not get the role, but so that always stayed with me, of, like, be yourself, but like, not

Jonathan  19:45  
fully. And that was always so, yeah, it was always so confusing for me too. And I never went into a room with enough confidence to not only be myself, but also to kind of be the character, because that's there's you have to be a little bit of both. In a way, I think. When you're

Jeffrey  20:00  
walking now, was there one audition that you went into that you had prepped for as and your character was a telephone?

Jonathan  20:11  
Did you an actual telephone? Yeah,

Jeffrey  20:13  
did you prep as a telephone to go into that audition

Jonathan  20:17  
where I was a telephone, or I had to use a telephone?

Jeffrey  20:21  
I thought maybe you decided you would become a telephone during that audition.

Jonathan  20:26  
You mean, forget the part to get the National Network Correct. My big you played a telephone the way you said. It made absolutely no sense. Like I was trying to, like I was auditioning for a phone, to be a phone like someone using, like, dialing my own numbers. No, it was just this national network Verizon Wireless commercial that I got, which was a big deal. I played a human. I played a kid having a party at his parents house. But it was the first commercial

Jeffrey  20:54  
for photo of

Speaker 1  20:55  
camera phone. No, no. Picture messaging. Oh, text from texting a picture camera phone. Already had camera phones. It was still, it was a flip phone, but you can all text message. I thought it was, I thought it was a camera phone. No, that was like, that was like 2000 I remember when

Emily  21:10  
you could take, started being able to take a picture, yeah, in high school, but I don't remember this.

Jonathan  21:13  
This was like 2005 I think something like that. And everyone, I was living with Michael zegan and a bunch of other friends, and they were and we were so ecstatic, like, wow. And then I had friends that summer go to a Britney Spears concert, and they called me from the concert saying, dude, you're up. Your commercial is on the board at the Britney Spears concert. Yeah. So I did get, you know, I got a bunch of residuals, and I tell this story a lot. I was bartending also at the time, and I

Emily  21:42  
quit all of my bar jobs. Oh, what? Because you're getting so much in residual, yeah. And I was like, This is it, yeah, I know.

Jonathan  21:48  
And then, and, you know, my agent made a living for a full year. My agents were super psyched, and obviously they were starting to, like, send me out more, yeah. And then I, you know, I didn't get anything. They got me an audition for 30 rock, oh, which was a real deal. Yeah, I didn't know that. And I actually went. It was just me in the casting director's office, just me and her, and I had to learn impressions were and you did, you It was awful. Yeah, I did. I did Christopher Walken and Bill Clinton

Emily  22:21  
to quite popular.

Jeffrey  22:23  
That's, that's difficult, Christopher, that

Emily  22:27  
would be difficult to do, one that stands out amongst the rest. And

Jonathan  22:30  
I remember listening on my iPod to just Jay Jay Moore, right?

Emily  22:35  
Jay Moore was a person the

Jonathan  22:37  
he was on SNL, yeah. He used to do an amazing Christopher Walken impression, so I just listened to him. I don't know anyway.

Emily  22:44  
Now we're so spoiled because everyone on insulate. There's like, every day I'm seeing like, different impressions. But yeah, people on Instagram

Jonathan  22:50  
totally Yeah. I guess it's always with technology and social media. It's like, totally different, yeah. So what I want to know, like, what do you have? What are you doing now? You know, do you have projects? We were just saying you just did a podcast with Tory Spelling. You're on a podcast tour.

Emily  23:09  
I am. I don't know what are you releasing?

Emily  23:13  
Yeah, just myself. I'm just doing a tour of me. Yeah, I have something coming out in January, but this would be really early to be

Jeffrey  23:25  
cool, yeah, and, but we're excited

Emily  23:28  
about it. Yeah, I love it when I actually have work. It's always fun.

Jonathan  23:33  
I know I mean, like the life, the life of an actor, is, is

Emily  23:37  
difficult. It's it's not enjoyable a lot of the time, yeah,

Jonathan  23:42  
what has what has sustained you, what has kept you going?

Emily  23:45  
I mean, I think my journey was sobriety and mental health has definitely given me, like a new life to it that maybe would have run out, because especially these past six years, basically, I finished the deuce an end of an end of 2019 and then it was covid, I kind of lost a lot of steam, and then it was the strike, and it's been, I mean, for all of us, but it's been, like a really horrific time in the industry, and really hard to support ourselves. And everybody's sort of questioning, like, can we support ourselves doing this, right? So for me, finding community and, like purpose, sort of outside of acting, has been vital for me to make that not the only source of like purpose and validation. But before that, I just I drank cocktails in the meantime,

Jonathan  24:36  
or, well, we're thankful you are where you are, yeah, yeah, and that you've kind of found your way. Yes, I

Emily  24:43  
am too you could say that, yeah, oh, I definitely am very glad. Cool. Well,

Jonathan  24:49  
um, thanks for being a guest on our show.

Jeffrey  24:51  
This has been great. Yeah? Emily Meade, thank you very much. You've allowed us to go Hollywood once again,

Jeffrey  24:58  
which I always love in the.

Jonathan  25:00  
Footsteps of Kelsey,

Jonathan  25:03  
Michael zegan, yeah,

Jeffrey  25:04  
actually did several podcast episodes right on, literally on the Hollywood Walk of Fame,

Jeffrey  25:12  
Hollywood and Vox

Jonathan  25:16  
Cool. Well, thanks. Thank you.

Jeffrey  25:19  
Good luck and congratulations. Thank you, thanks.

Jeffrey  25:26  
Tipple time is brought to you by palm. Wonderful.

Jonathan  25:32  
All right, hey, everyone. Jonathan pogash, of course, co host of the cocktail guru show. This is what we call the tipple time segment, where I walk you through a deliciously easy and innovative, well, I think it's innovative cocktail, and today we're actually going to keep it non alcoholic as the entire episode this episode has been a sort of a non alcoholic sober episode. So this is a non alcoholic daiquiri, and it's going to be really interesting, because I'm putting my own twist on it, and I'm using POM Wonderful pomegranate juice as kind of the star of the show. If you go to the fields of where the pomegranates are harvested, it is beautiful, absolutely gorgeous. And I can't wait to show you this cocktail. So first of all, I'll take my small side of the cocktail shaker. I'm using a non alcoholic dark rum spirit, or cane spirit, rather. And this is meant to sort of mimic the flavor and aroma of dark rum. It is non alcoholic. Of course. I am using some simple syrup. We're doing half of an ounce of simple syrup. I did an ounce and a half of the dark cane spirit, non alcoholic spirit. And then I'm doing some freshly squeezed lime juice. We're taking the juice of about half of a lime, and we're just going to squeeze, let me move this glass so that you can see we're going to squeeze that right in there, just like that. Yep. Always balance out your citrus with your sweet etc, etc. Etc. And now, of course, the palm waterfall 100% pomegranate juice, and we're going to add one ounce of this into our cocktail shaker next. Of course, we shake our cocktail so that we can blend all of those ingredients together. I'm just going to use my hands. It's okay if you're doing that at home, if you're doing it in a bar or restaurant, nope, please use your ice scoop, okay? And we'll give this non alcoholic pomegranate daiquiri a little shake. Okay, that should be good. We'll separate the shaker, and we have our beautiful cocktail coop right over here, and we're just going to strain it out into our coop glass, and I have as a garnish a dehydrated lime wheel, which we will just throw right on top. That is my non alcoholic pomegranate daiquiri smell. I smell that fresh pomegranate. It's like biting into those kernels. Those pomegranate kernels give it a little taste. Oh yeah, this is a really nicely balanced cocktail. As you saw, it's pretty simple to do. If you want to make it alcoholic, you just substitute the non alcoholic spirit for regular rum actually works well with any base spirit, you know, vodka, June, tequila, even non alcoholic versions as well. This is great. Anyone can enjoy it. Cheers, everyone. Thank you again for watching

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